Part Two of my The Bias Among Us series, read Part One The Bias Among Us – Success?
I have always received the majority of my post-op weight loss surgery (WLS) support online. I initially met most of my WLS friends on ObesityHelp, then had the pleasure of meeting them in person at ObesityHelp events. I have attended eight ObesityHelp events and two Obesity Action Coalition events. Most event attendees will tell you that one of the BEST parts of events is meeting other people and socializing. I know that even after 10 years in the community I enjoy events for the opportunity to catch up with old friend and to meet new friends. However, recently there has been some very disturbing incidents that have happened to me, and other long term post-ops that need to be discussed. Not much bothers me in life, but this is one of them, mostly because it totally zaps my mood, in the midst of enjoying life, socializing with others who “understand” the struggle of living with obesity I am reminded that some people still see me as just FAT, people who cannot see past my FAT to get to know the REAL me, to ask about my REAL journey, yet these same people claim to be “helpers”.
Last year at the inaugural OAC Your Weight Matters convention in Dallas, I meet many new friends. *wave* On the very first day of the conference a group of us were sitting in the lobby talking about our lives, not weight loss surgery, not weight…actually I have a very good memory, I was talking to another Sarah (spelled correctly with the H) about my job as she also worked in healthcare and was familiar with a company with whom I had just received a recruitment call. Suddenly, there was an interruption to my left, it was someone to whom I had never met asking me if I was pre-op and considering weight loss surgery, she came equipped with a pamphlet all about herself and her journey. She continued to tell me all about her weight loss, and how many support groups she speaks to about her journey. It was her sales pitch. Sorry I’m not pre-op, I”m actually many years post-op, yes I’ve regained. Yes, I know that despite having RNY and a revision I am still morbidly obese and qualify for surgery. I whip out my phone show my before picture, then quickly explain Lipedema and show my legs pictures and hope that’s enough to convey that I’m not buying what she was selling. And it was obviously enough because the person never interacted with me again the entire weekend. To me that showed her REAL intention was self promotion, not meeting me or getting to know me. If she really cared to know me, or the others sitting there, she would have engaged in the conversation, not interrupted then leave as soon as her sales pitch failed. This was further confirmed at the recent ObesityHelp Conference in Anaheim when the same person did not make any effort to engage in conversation with me, even after I reintroduced myself.
At the end of the very same conference it happened again. After walking my lap at the Walk from Obesity I went inside to warm up, Dallas was FREEZING that morning. So there I sit in my tutu and tiara and I’m approached by a fellow WLS patient and asked if I’m considering surgery, or am pre-op. Honestly, I don’t remember this conversation as much because I instantly started fiddling with my phone to pull up pictures. Why should I have to do this? I guess I don’t, I guess I could just be as rude as these people are and say something back to them verses explaining that yes I once weighed over 500lbs, see I used to be REALLY fat, now I’m just FAT FAT. I prefer the educational route, and at least this person was not trying to “sell” anything to me, they appeared to be genuinely concerned and/or interested in me and appreciated that I educated them about lipedema and lymphedema.
It is also troubling because the OAC Your Weight Matters Convention is NOT a weight loss surgery focused event, it is educational about healthy weight loss options, and advocacy for obesity. One of my favorite parts about the OAC is the work to make sure individuals have access to weight loss options “when they are ready.” During the weekend I met many professionals in the weight loss field, and not one of them approached me me to discuss my weight, so neither should regular attendees.
But Sarah, that was LAST year, get over it already, you’re too sensitive, these people are just trying to HELP.
No, actually some people are trying to get paid. I was recently scolded for speaking up against a comment I believed was stigmatizing against FAT people. I was told the person’s intentions were to help people, she has “found health” and just wants to pay it forward. Least we forget where we came from? I remember it fondly because I am almost back to where I started. Again the person trying to “help” also has a business marketed to post-op WLS patients, so let’s not confuse paying it forward to getting paid. I too have “found health”, my health might LOOK different than others’s perception of health, but I am healthy and I too help others. I have actually helped others for years to navigate the insurance process in order to get weight loss surgery and post-op plastic surgery covered. There is no weight or size requirement to help others, nor does losing 100lbs automatically qualify as a profession.
There is no weight or size requirement to help others, nor does losing 100lbs automatically qualify as a profession.
That recent experience is only one of the reasons I chose to finally write about this topic. Sadly, I have heard of several other incidents like the ones I experienced in Dallas, at other WLS events. Stories of long term post-ops or mid-journey post-ops being approached by fellow WLS patients and questioned as to why they have yet to reach “goal” weight (which who knows what someone else’s GOAL weight is????) or why the person hasn’t addressed their regain. Of course the person was ready to “help”, here just sign up for my program.
I have invited many long term post op friends to events in their areas only to be told “Oh, I’d LOVE to go, but I can’t, I’ve regained so much I’d be too embarrassed.” Regain happens, it is more common that most think or want to accept. Regain is also the very reason to attend an event. Events can provide education, rejuvenation, and motivation. However, all that can be diminished by a well intentioned person speaking inappropriately to someone about their weight. While I am strong and will just speak up about it and blog about it, it could and does really upset others.
I’m sure many of you reading this will be able to guess who these people are, I am sure their intention are to help as I am sure there are people who would benefit from the type of helpful services they offer. I am just not one of those people, and I feel obligated to point out the approach is inappropriate. If you want to help people do not shame them, also do not dismiss ME as a fellow WLS patient just because I am not a pre-op or in need of your services. You’re missing out on a potential awesome, cool, and funny friend. Most people who take the time to get to know the REAL me would agree, if not I’ll just delete their comments.
On the serious note, this is me being helpful. There is nothing wrong with wanting to help others, or starting a business to do so, however if you are going to enter into “people helping” career, you need to work on people skills. As I stated before, I dislike being approached by strangers about my weight. However, being approached by fellow WLS patients is even more upsetting.
- The WLS community is supposed to be one of support where people “understand” what it’s like to be obese. If you know what is it’s like or remember what it was like you know how mortifying it would have been to be approached about your weight. Also, in the WLS community you do not know if the person is pre-op, newly post-op, started at 500lbs and has lost 200, etc. We all come in so many shapes and sizes you cannot tell where we are in the journey by looking at us.
- Get to know the person. How can you help someone if you do not know them, know their story, where they are on their journey, their struggles? That is the question to ask “Where are you on your journey?” I was recently asked this by a vendor at an event and it was the perfect way to find out how their product might be useful to me without them making an assumption about me based on my appearance.
This year at the OAC Convention in Phoenix I once again met many many news friends. Several who do have businesses or are speakers in the community, but that was not their “pick-up” line, we actually had conversations about ourselves, our lives….the real roots of a support community.
Mary says
Love that you bring this to the forefront Sara. I hope you never let “them” get you down.
born2lbfat says
Never ever!
Maureen Hirschfeld says
Well said!
born2lbfat says
Thank you!
leendadll says
I’m getting the “why aren’t you at goal?” from another post-op at the gym. She’s had surgery several months after me and has enjoyed amazing weight loss, losing far more than me, far faster than me. She now looks down on me for not losing as much as (or more than) her – not understanding that my goal is HEALTH not “unhealthy but skinny”. I’d love to be thinner but I also need a place that I can maintain and, for now, this is it.
born2lbfat says
My “goal” weight from 502lbs was 220, so even at that I would have qualified for WLS. Surgery is meant to help lose a percentage of excess weight, not to put people at a normal chart weight.
Ronnie says
Sara, thank you for ‘telling it like it is’ and ‘calling a spade a spade’! How often have we been told in life to not judge someone or make assumptions about others? Your story makes me feel anger and also pity for those trying to “sell” themselves! Your blog post is informative, enlightening, and more truthful than many I have read in the recent past.
Michelle "Shelly" says
Preach it my awesome, funny, cool friend. Love, Eggy
born2lbfat says
Thanks, buddy!
Connie D says
Thank you for speaking out about this. This very reason is one of the reasons I hate to go to support groups and the conferences. I too started out having a fairly successful weight loss, then had problems and gained most back. I have struggled to lose again. At the last ObesityHelp conference I was approached asking what surgery I was considering. When I said that I already had a lap-band, the person said, good for you and that you could come to the conference so soon after surgery. I told her that my surgery was years ago. She then started to explain what my problem was. I was over eating, I wasn’t exercising, etc…, I should not have regained, I am just not trying hard enough. She herself was a successful band patient that lost 100 pounds 10 years ago and has kept it off. If she was successful, then everyone should be.
Sorry for venting…it strikes a nerve with me too. 🙂
born2lbfat says
Nah just keeping coming, you know you have a “hang out” buddy in me! And don’t ask Michelle about what I let hang out…lol.
born2lbfat says
Connie,
You bring up the ISSUE I forgot to mention in the post, you are the 3rd WLS post op with LIPEDEMA or LYMPHEDEMA to be approached about weight regain. Hello those conditions are the reason! No “focus on protein, and drink more water” is going to fix the issue.
Theresa S says
I had a similar issue multiple times at the OH conference in Anaheim this year. At the time of that conference I was wearing approx a size 20 and weighing in at a whopping 220 lbs (down from a high of 400 lbs and a pre-op weight of 330 lbs), I was asked repeatedly if I was considering surgery. I honestly started to think I should wear a sign that said, “Although I may look like your pre-op pictures, I’m actually 6 months post-op.” We all start and end this journey in different places.
Thank you so much addressing these issues, and I’m glad that I’ve happened upon a new blog I want to follow! 🙂
Mikimi says
I would so love to talk with you!
I live in Israel and obesity is on the rise.
I had open surgery for permanent ring in 1992 with a high wright of 120K on my 152cm/5ft frame so no matter what I do I always look FAT to others that even now after revision to RnY (went in with a weight of 104K) and now after Plastics (which I appealed and won twice) for a TT and a year later BL/BR. I make look FAT to other but I only feel fat at my weight of 77-80K nowadays.
I struggle to buy a trendy skirt as I am so often told that the shop does not have my size and walk out in tears. So I pay to have many of my clothes altered.
And when going for plastics consult, one PS told be that with my weight I needed to return to the clinic for WLS! I left his office heaving in tears and humiliation.
On OH I am “godzilla”.
Again I will say/write, I would be most happy – no I would be honored to call and talk with you on my dime. My email is mikimi.steinberg@hmail.com
Mikimi says
Oops-typo on my email: mikimi.steinberg@gmail.com
Debe says
Sara, I met you this past summer at the OAC convention in Phoenix and have to say I admired you very much. I found you to be a real person and immediately wanted to count you as a friend. I was truly moved by your story. Bias within the WLS community exists and the street runs both ways, although many are not willing to admit this. While you may be approached as a “pre-op” I have often heard that I am not a true WLS patient as I didn’t lose 100 lbs, or that I must have had the surgery because I work in a Bariatric clinic (not true). Who cares, whats important is that we all have a desire to be healthier. We need to support each other no matter how large or small we are or how great or minimal the weight loss numbers. No one knows my story so why assume you can help me write it. I apologize for those whose remarks were unkind since they won’t recognize themselves and apologize on their own behalf. Thank you for speaking about this subject in your Sara style with humor and grace. I look forward to meeting you again at a future event. Keep rockin those tutus.